In 2018, then-BBC politics presenter Andrew Neil ended one of XO his This Week programmes by getting guests Michael Portillo and MP Caroline Flint to join him for a performance of the latest online dance craze, Skibidi.

As the bizarre scene unfolded, the show's other guest, Bobby Gillespie, remained rooted to his seat wearing an obdurate and slightly weary expression.

The Primal Scream frontman, whose band helped to merge club culture with rock 'n' roll sensibilities in the early 90s, felt he had earlier been cut off by the host while debating the impact of Brexit, neo-liberal capitalism, and the rise of far-right politics globally, and was now in no mood for such frivolity.

The clip soon trended online, with many people feeling his discomfort. Neil later labelled him "a miserable Jock".

"I was kind of this lamb to the slaughter," recalls Gillespie, who was also joined on the show by former Labour spin doctor Alastair Campbell.

"I was like this innocent guy - as a left winger, who is a musician, a rock 'n' roller - and suddenly I'm in this programme that's going out live.

"These are hardcore political people, career politicians. I didn't even know Andrew Neil's history."

He adds: "I don't watch TV, so I had no idea who he was, believe it or not, although I'm interested in politics.

"But it kind of worked out well in a way that I was that innocent."